Another reason to use/test Enlightenment (E23) over E16

While testing on my laptops I find that Enlightenment (for now still E23) actually consumes less memory than E16.

Starting up with no apps running yet RAM usage is:

  • E23 = 293Mb
  • E16 = 353Mb

I suspect the difference lies mainly in the extra memory footprint of "cairo-dock". :happy:


When i read the first sentence i was thinking the same too. A good trial would be disabling it and see what happens

Hi all. I am playing with Exton Linux and Exlight E20. Nice. Makes me wonder why elive is reinventing the wheel?? Although I appreciate elive development.

It's not a matter of reinventing the wheel. Elive has always used Enlightenment as it's DE.
Exton like AltLinux offers fully configured DEs slapped on to their base system to give people an idea on how they function.
AltLinux does a better job of the 2 IMO. It's based on RosaLinux which in turn is a Mandriva fork.
They've multiple versions on offer with many different DEs which gives anice comparison as to what could be possible and how they differ in RAM and CPU usage.

The big diff with Elive is that it will be totally built, including the base system to accommodate Enlightenment.
Another big diff is that Elive uses the latest Enlightenment builds, i.e E23 at the moment, opposed to E20 on the others.

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I may sound dumb... but how do i use e23? the only de i have available is e16, should i just install e23? wouldn't it be the boring base version?

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Well, installing E23 is as easy as:
"api enlightenment" on a terminal. It'll bring in the needed dependencies.

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Thank you a lot!

Hi friend. Very good detailed reply. Thank you so much. will stay with elive x64 and play with it. Not ready to make it my goto distro, as I have used my faithful MX xfce for many years and am familiar with it as a productive, stable tool. Having a problem to make my usb with elive persistent. Cheers.

Just a quick question. I no longer use thunderbird email, mainly because it does not sync reliably with gmail, gcalender, etc. I now use gnome evolution pim. It's great, and very functional and simple. Can I use evolution with elive? I should be able to. yes?

Nice, glad I pulled you over. :wink:

Persistent will start working a 3rd time round, in that:

  • a first time is a first time. The moment to enable persistence.
  • a second time to gather info for persistence
  • and on the 3rd time it should work. :smiley14:

Yes, I suppose you could but as it is very Gnome specific it'll pull in a lot of Gnome dependencies too. No big deal just saying. :smile_cat:

  • As to sync problems with Thunderbird and gmail ...... I don't think I've ever noticed that. What are your symptoms there?

BTW Sylpheed/claws is a nice, fast email client too.

I recently moved from thunderbird to Sylpheed and i'm really satisfied. I use email just for emails, so i don't care about syncing anything, so it's perfect. Moreover i love the get all button reminds me of hotmail when i was a child.

I didn't ask, but what Elive version are you using?
Stable 32 or Beta (32 or 64) ?

Been playing with Elive Beta 64 on usb persistent. Too much learning curve and wasted time. I will continue with my very stable MX18 xfce. (I have Mint xfce as backup, in case, or when using gparted) Until elive becomes a VERY usable distro, with advantages over other competitors, it will stay a hobby distro. Sorry. My 2 bobs worth.

I did the "api enlightenment", and yes I see the process successfully conclude. I restart the computer but I'm still on e16, I don't know what else I need to do in order to load e23.

You need to login through the login screen and opt for "enlightenment". After that it will autologin to enlightenment (i.e the previous choice) by default.

To get there simply logout from e16 and opt for enlightenment in the top right of the window and log in again.

Going back to e16 can be done by doing the same procedure and opting for e16. :smile_cat:

Do read what issues you can expect when starting E23 here:

Some items may be resolved but especially the "fading" is something to do.

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exactly, cairo-dock takes between 45 and 100 MB of ram, depending of your settings

this is a bit sad, so its a not-small number, but cairo-dock improves greatly the desktop experience on e16, so its pretty needed...

the good thing about e23 is that we don't need cairo-dock, all its features should be implemented via their modules, which won't consume more memory