# Elive Retro

**URL:** <https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284>\
**Category:** Releases\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284 "2022-10-29T01:07:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/1 "2022-10-29T01:07:28Z")

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This thread will be used to announce some progress for the EliveRetro version :applause:

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/2 "2022-10-29T01:10:31Z")

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- Last update of E16 includes an important fix where the desktop was locked in full CPU when switching fast the desktops: [Making sure you're not a bot!](https://git.enlightenment.org/e16/e16/issues/3)

- A RetroWave (synthwave, etc) music playlist has been created with the best selection of retrowave music for the version (a window will be opened with the music playing at desktop startup in live mode, as a presentation mood) :

> **[Best RetroWave Music \[selected synthwave\] for Elive Linux](https://consent.youtube.com/m?continue=https%3A%2F%2Fmusic.youtube.com%2Fplaylist%3Flist%3DPL8StX6hh3Nd8JNRF75IOA9wnC8pKfB7cs%26cbrd%3D1&gl=GB&m=0&pc=ytm&cm=2&hl=en&src=1)**
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> A new music service with official albums, singles, videos, remixes, live performances and more for Android, iOS and desktop. It's all here.

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/3 "2022-10-29T15:03:32Z")

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> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> a window will be opened with the music playing at desktop startup in live mode, as a presentation mood) :

Won't that create copyright problems?

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/4 "2022-10-30T16:33:49Z")

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No because there's no downloaded content, only the web link (or "mpv" command, depending of computer resources) opened with that youtube playlist, just like the user watching some content on youtube

On the other hand there's many royalty-free songs of retrowave (synthwave\*)

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**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/5 "2022-10-30T17:33:28Z")

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> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> On the other hand there's many royalty-free songs of retrowave (synthwave\*)

[https://www.youtube.com/c/RoyaltyFreePlanetOfficial/](https://www.youtube.com/c/RoyaltyFreePlanetOfficial/)

> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> No because there's no downloaded content, only the web link (or "mpv" command, depending of computer resources) opened with that youtube playlist, just like the user watching some content on youtube

I'd be careful.  
youtube-dl got temporarily taken off GitHub partially because its test suite tested downloading of copyrighted songs.

It's not the same, but better safe than sorry.

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/6 "2022-11-03T18:06:44Z")

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Work In Progress: :work:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nZqPKAZ4pc0/maxresdefault.jpg "Elive Retro (designs, 2022-11-03)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqPKAZ4pc0)

_betatesting instructions on the video description_

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/7 "2022-11-03T20:18:02Z")

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Looks good, I like the icon choice and even the looks you gave to cairo-dock(I still prefer tint2).

As a whole I think that the linear wallpaper designs make for a cluttered experience i.e overdoing the black & pink..... go for simple.

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**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/8 "2022-11-03T20:29:33Z")

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I really like the theme you thought was "too dark" - please keep it available!

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/9 "2022-11-04T12:41:05Z")

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After using the configuration for a while I do find the dark theming tiring on the eyes using the candy icon set.  
On a light background they look a lot a better

[![](https://i.imgur.com/rNobbtW.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/rNobbtW.jpg)

and as a side note:

1. Dark theming hardly existed in the 'old days' Retro is supposed to be pointing to.
2. Applications (not all) do not always adhere well to dark mode.

The icons in the dock (as well as systray and menu) will create a problem regarding consistency as a lot of (3rd) party apps bring along their own icons.

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2022, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/10 "2022-11-16T23:08:01Z")

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I may have forgot to say this, but this version will not only be retro but also follow a specific "design / look", so this thematic will be based on "RetroWave" style _(google for it and you will immediately see the look-n-feel on the image results)_, so the look will be entirely dark @triantares, which is also a good practice for compatibility on a fully dark desktop 🙂

_BTW if you didn't, watch the movie "Kung Fury" on youtube, you will have fun with that!_ :applause:

### Updates:

- colorscheme added for terminology, use "apir terminology-data" to start using it (RetroWave colorscheme)

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/11 "2022-11-22T09:53:45Z")

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Well here's the first question:  
Do we name it "Retro" or "Retrowave"?

Considering "Retrowave" is an existing style and it's mainly cosmetic on Elive (i.e not a throwback in software or design) ..... I think 'Retrowave' is the better description. :dance:

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/12 "2022-11-22T19:30:28Z")

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good question / point, yes retrowave is more like the "cosmetics style" picked, but i think the topic is more about "an OS with a retro style (and/or good for old computers)", so for this "Elive Retro" is more intuitive (a retro version of Elive), on the other hand if we decide to -really- go to the retrowave style as uniqueness then the "elive retrowave" is more appropriate... also is important to consider here importance of the "retrowave" keyword impact on google, this means that people that will search for "retrowave" on internet my find better this version of elive 🤔

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/13 "2022-12-17T04:28:39Z")

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I think that I'm **going to release a beta version** in the next 2 days, why?:

- I'm working a lot on the EliveRetro version, but there's still work to do and especially to do things correctly (a good website page, a strategic promotion, a betatesting, etc) which i don't think its possible before finishing the year (I wanted to release EliveRetro before christmas)
- The last release is already 6 months old, we need some activity, so releasing another beta is a good thing (and there's also many many improvements too!)
- While releasing, the work will continue on EliveRetro and in 1-2 months it will be released (note: other work can be done in the meantime too, like **starting** the work on E25+)

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/14 "2022-12-17T09:24:18Z")

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Make sure to have it come with a different default wallpaper, especially on the announcement!

> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> (I wanted to release EliveRetro before christmas)

That was obvious but also very optimistic.

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/15 "2023-02-24T14:37:15Z")

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There's a **first Beta** , already well tested, includes **many** new features developed in the last months (no time to list them now 😝 ), and also the removing of systemd (switching to sysvinit) support which is a **very** good bonus for elive and some users that may want that

In other words: I just need to re-check all the (infinite) TODO entries in my notes and many places but this is a pretty **finished work** :applause:

How to download: Paste this Magnet code into your torrent application:

```bash
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8db52c2c61677819539a2e3988a9447d48d0d303&dn=elive%5F3.8.32%5F%5FEliveRetro%5F%5Fbeta01%5F%5Fhybrid%5Famd64.iso&tr=https%3A%2F%2Fprivtracker.com%2Fp3r6p4hrhw51no4e%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt.okmp3.ru%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ffosstorrents.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fnyaa.tracker.wf%3A7777%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.acgnxtracker.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fshare.camoe.cn%3A8080%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.imgoingto.icu%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.kuroy.me%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.loligirl.cn%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.nanoha.org%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tamersunion.org%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftr.burnabyhighstar.com%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftr.ready4.icu%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ft.overflow.biz%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.bt4g.com%3A2095%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.files.fm%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.gbitt.info%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ipv6tracker.ru%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftr.cili001.com%3A8070%2Fannounce&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fvps02.net.orel.ru%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.com%3A2810%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fbt1.archive.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fbt2.archive.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ffe.dealclub.de%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fmovies.zsw.ca%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fretracker.hotplug.ru%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker1.bt.moack.co.kr%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker2.dler.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker6.lelux.fi%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.auctor.tv%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.beeimg.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.birkenwald.de%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.blacksparrowmedia.net%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.lelux.fi%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.moeking.me%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.pomf.se%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.theoks.net%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker-udp.gbitt.info%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fvibe.sleepyinternetfun.xyz%3A1738%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fwww.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce

```

_mentions: @TheTechRobo @triantares @PrinceAMD ..._

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/16 "2023-02-24T16:15:13Z")

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> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> How to download: Paste this Magnet code into your torrent application:

Downloading and will keep a seed open.

Isn't 'zsync' a better option BTW?

Getting stuck on 66% metadata. 😢

[![](https://i.imgur.com/LKeAJWm.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/LKeAJWm.png)

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/17 "2023-02-24T17:01:59Z")

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> [@triantares](#):
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> Isn't 'zsync' a better option BTW?

no because that requires a web server (the iso is not uploaded anywhere and won't be because the mirrors only accepts stable or beta, the website code too, and the mirrors will require more extra GB to have it) etc.. also the user needs to use that "extra" tool, creating a shared torrent is much easier and faster, also more secure (checksum verified and repaired)

> Getting stuck on 66% metadata.

mmh that strange, my torrent stills uploading to somebody, and I added many trackers on it, try to add it again? 🤔

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/18 "2023-02-24T17:04:11Z")

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> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> try to add it again?

I did.  
I even opened a VPN connection to Bogota.

Trackers says 1 seeder and 2 leechers and that IP there is yours, I think.

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**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/19 "2023-02-24T17:22:01Z")

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I'm the only seeder, but i don't understand why your metadata could be not fully downloaded 🤔 maybe there's a broken tracker? but there's many, hum... so strange, let me restart transmission from my side...

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**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284/20 "2023-02-24T17:23:42Z")

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> [@Thanatermesis](#):
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> so strange, let me restart transmission from my side...

That did it  
Now it's downloading. :happybounce:

[Next page](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/elive-retro/3284.md?page=2)
