# Eltrans: How to improve the English sentences in Elive (proofreading) **URL:** \ **Category:** Communication\ **Created:** [May 13, 2019, 11:50am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055 "2019-05-13T11:50:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/75 "2020-06-11T22:39:57Z")
> [@TheTechRobo](#): > > sorry, but quick questionβ€”when you say "you" you put an asterisk at the end...what is this for? > _In **regular expressions** , the **asterisk** is a metacharacter for zero or more instances of the preceding character. Without **regular expressions** , the **asterisk** is a wildcard, for zero or more instances of any character._ In other words, is a way to reference "everybody" πŸ™‚ yeah maybe its not so clear, but i don't know a better way to say that than with regex πŸ€”, saying "you all" sounds a bit strange lol ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/76 "2020-06-11T23:40:39Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > saying "you all" sounds a bit strange lol What about "all of you"? But we'd better stop being :offtopic: ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/77 "2020-06-12T05:21:46Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > In other words, is a way to reference "everybody" Using the term "one" would be the way to go there, in the sense of referring to a general individual .... I like regex extensions but they're not handy when reading out loud. :madness: ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/78 "2020-07-10T20:32:15Z")
@triantares time for the cleanup crew? :madness: And now that eltrans' been working again ive been translating away! ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/79 "2020-07-10T21:51:04Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > [https://dev.elivecd.org/changeset/4821#file14](https://dev.elivecd.org/changeset/4821#file14) > CHANGESET\_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation. You don't have the required permissions. And im logged in as TheTechRobo... :baffled: > [@Thanatermesis](#): > > methodology Like (i think it was @rbrick49???) said, it -can- be a good strategy, but it limits translators to multilinguals... ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/80 "2021-02-18T17:38:53Z")
> [@TheTechRobo](#): > > > CHANGESET\_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation. You don't have the required permissions. thanks for reporting the issue, FIXED, seems like it was the only permission lacking for the authenticated users πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/81 "2021-04-14T20:13:36Z")
@Catherine_alvarez is helping now with the Spanish translations :applause: @TheTechRobo I'm reviewing the behaviour of eltrans in english, can you open eltrans and list here (in the forum, to have it stated) the translations you already improved in english? ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/82 "2021-04-14T20:32:17Z")
...and how would I figure that out? ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/83 "2021-04-14T20:58:39Z")
from memory πŸ™‚ or maybe from [Timeline – Elive Development](https://dev.elivecd.org/timeline) since we have registered all the commits here I say that because from the application may show confusing (like they needs a review again) ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/84 "2021-04-14T22:17:56Z")
Its fine, I duplicate c heck everything a billion times anyway. :madness: ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/85 "2021-04-15T00:43:04Z")
> [@TheTechRobo](#): > > Its fine, I duplicate c heck everything a billion times anyway. :madness: yeah but I needed a list to know which ones you improved, to know how is eltrans acting it was all of the ones that were available ? (all of them was completed?) ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/86 "2021-04-15T14:41:12Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > all of them was completed?) I don't know. I have done at least a bit of: elive-tools, usb-bootable-elive, elive-daemons, smb-browser, extra-features, 3g-dialer, thunar-audio-converter, warning-messages, elive-news, hebernate, samba\_admin, elive-upgrader, eliveremote, and emodule-internet since I started eltrans according to the timeline.. ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/87 "2021-04-15T18:18:53Z")
Ok @TheTechRobo , don't worry, in any case we will re-review all of them πŸ™‚ which is a good thing Just for note the actual status: ![image](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9288427404033e346107db4cc0c425dc7a19cd49.png) From what I see, the 3 last ones requires my verifications, the ones that says "completed" seems like you verified them entirely, and the other ones are in progress @TheTechRobo do not edit on eltrans these days, in order to avoid conflicts so we are going to work strong on them , i will keep you updated about which ones you can improve the english after the verifications will be made πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/88 "2021-04-16T13:49:08Z")
Just to update the behaviour of the English translations (proofread / improvement), looking at the previous screenshot, it basically means: - **Verifications** : it means that the messages requires to be validated / confirmed, before to be accepted to be proofreaded (so is not a proofreading step) - **Proofreaded** : it means that the sentence was (or can be) improved in its english - Completed: both validations and proofreadings steps finished How much understandable is the new wordings? intuitive enough? Is important to distinguis the meaning between "proofread" and "verified", they are two different steps, a suggestion for a better wording? (like "validated" may sound better? πŸ€” ) ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/89 "2021-04-16T14:41:23Z")
What about "established"? Since they're not "complete"' after you finish with them, their meaning is just established. PING @triantares @rebel450 @lupuse ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/90 "2021-04-16T16:11:45Z")
_Note: I meant a better wording for the word **Verifications** (like "validated"), not the other ones, the other ones I think they are clear_ ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/91 "2021-04-16T16:35:38Z")
I think " approved" should suffice. i.e the language and spelling gets checked or verified after which the owner or an established peer can approve the text for publication. ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/92 "2021-04-16T16:44:57Z")
thanks, approved better fits its meaning πŸ™‚ I will change them in a few (passing auto-translations now, it will be soon ready for proofreading, i will keep the thread updated) ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/93 "2021-04-16T22:24:01Z")
![image](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/8/81d566590b3afc03727199a09dd52d1f35af9c64.png) Eltrans is ready to be proofread πŸ™‚ **Important:** because I completed all the validations, the item (eltrans) shows in eltrans as "Completed 100%" which is wrong (it should be "Validated 100%, Proofread 0%"), do you think I should switch it to the second mode in order to be more friendly the interface @TheTechRobo ? πŸ€” ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055/94 "2021-04-16T22:25:18Z")
I think you should switch it to validated 100% proofread 0% [Previous page](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/eltrans-how-to-improve-the-english-sentences-in-elive-proofreading/1055.md?page=5)