# Installing Bullseye over Buster on Elive Beta **URL:** \ **Category:** Installed\ **Tags:** research\ **Created:** [December 30, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034 "2021-12-30T17:57:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/21 "2022-01-07T08:34:28Z")
[quote="PerfMonk, post:20, topic:3034"] That seems to fix it for the moment. [/quote I don't have to jump through these hoops at all to keep my sound working, strange. Anyway it's proof enough that the sound configuration is the problem not the drivers or the firmware. 😃 Now to get that 'debhelper' issue ,out out of the way .... - why is it even installed in the first place? It's a package to help build debian packages from source code. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/22 "2022-01-07T13:12:41Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > Now to get that 'debhelper' issue ,out out of the way .... > > - why is it even installed in the first place? It's a package to help build debian packages from source code. 🤔 I have no idea. I don't remember installing it. ---
**Author:** ![Wizor](https://forum.elivelinux.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/e274bd/32.png) [@Wizor](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Wizor)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/23 "2022-01-07T13:12:48Z")
Happy to inform that i updated my elive installation too, but replaced the debian stuff pointing to Devuan stuff. More specifically following your guide and then also this guide here [Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System](https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera) I did start however by updating the kernel from 5.04 to 5.10 first and then when that worked out i changed the repos and did the migration. So far everything seems to work after one and half a gig of updated packages. Probably better to update kernel further now. ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/24 "2022-01-07T16:09:47Z")
> [@Wizor](#): > > I did start however by updating the kernel from 5.04 to 5.10 Yes, I kind of had the impression too that that did facilitate things. 😃 I'll add that in the [HowTo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/howto-upgrade-elive-beta-e16-painlessly-from-a-buster-base-to-bullseye) methinks. Does the Devuan guide differ much from the guide here on the forum in your opinion i.e does it need updating or correcting? > [@How to remove systemd on Debian Buster distros and switch to sysvinit, the good way](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/how-to-remove-systemd-on-debian-buster-distros-and-switch-to-sysvinit-the-good-way/2278): > > This is a generic howto that explains how to get rid of systemd in a distro based on Debian Buster, like the beta version of Elive 3.8.xx Feel free to edit and improve this howto in order to make the final system more compatible for all First things to know removing systemd will save you some RAM, around ~60 MB of it removing systemd can make things broken, not working as expected, etc (but we try to solve them all on this howto so that you can have a final working system) it is suggested to … ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/25 "2022-01-09T19:06:39Z")
@triantares reading the rest of the convo: - I updated your howto with a few changes (you can see them in the edit button), like pulseaudio not able to be killed without using that command - can you update the howto to remove not-needed things ? (like the bindings.cfg configuration, setvolume in bullseye is updated now with the fix) - @PerfMonk has a few improvements too that can be updated on the [Howto upgrade Elive Beta from Buster to Bullseye - #2](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/howto-upgrade-elive-beta-from-buster-to-bullseye/3040/2) (or can you @PerfMonk edit the howto to improve it?), like the pre-upgrade install > [@PerfMonk](#): > > ```bash > jan 06 17:34:33 EliveOrDead pulseaudio[24082]: /home/bt/.asoundrc may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it > > ``` ah! that was the cause! :applause: the problem is that the elive tool "audio-configurator" creates this file for compatibility with ALSA 🤔, ok let me solve that... done so, @PerfMonk do an "apug" on your bullseye and try the last updated combo in the end of the howto [Howto upgrade Elive Beta from Buster to Bullseye](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/howto-upgrade-elive-beta-from-buster-to-bullseye/3040) , this should solve your audio cards among reboots ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/26 "2022-01-09T21:59:55Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > can you update the howto to remove not-needed things ? (like the bindings.cfg configuration, setvolume in bullseye is updated now with the fix) I take it you mean the external copy of the [Howto](https://triantares.ddns.net/Elive/Howtos/Howto%20upgrade%20Elive%20Beta%20from%20Buster%20to%20Bullseye.html) ..... Yes, I will in due time (i.e tomorrow.) ## Done! Note-to-self: Maybe I should script that! ---
**Author:** ![Wizor](https://forum.elivelinux.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/e274bd/32.png) [@Wizor](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Wizor)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/27 "2022-01-10T08:33:48Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > Does the Devuan guide differ much from the guide here on the forum in your opinion i.e does it need updating or correcting? the guide at Devuan is good and simple, but since i've done the migration to Devuan last year following your guide i just needed the few bits from the beginning this time. Replaced the repos and then apt update, upgrade, reboot, dist-upgrade. Keys were already correct ones too. ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/28 "2022-01-10T12:56:22Z")
There is an issue related to the latest kernel regarding Intel chipsets. The logs get filled with 'DMA read request' faults due to IOMMU being enabled. To remedy this, it's necessary to turn off 'intel\_iommu' in the boot kernel parameters. This can be done in the ''/etc/default/grub' as root on the line containing: GRUB\_CMDLINE\_LINUX\_DEFAULT= and adding 'intel\_iommu=off' to the kernel options there. After which 'sudo update-grub' is needed to write out the changes....and a reboot to check if it all works. ### NOTE: I consider this a kernel issue and not a necessarily a Buster-\>Bullseye thingy .... so I'm not adding it to the HowTo for now. ### Another Note: Check out the Howto (at the end) for a 'warning' ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/29 "2022-01-12T15:55:12Z")
noobie question I read this thread and : I want to also try the most recent debian to see if my SoundCard would work ( new Lenovo Yoga Laptop) For now : TouchPad ok, TOuchScreen ok, but not the soundcard ( Lenovo YOGA C640-13IML ) What exactly and where (which source files) I need to replace Buster with Bullseye ? ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/30 "2022-01-12T16:07:43Z")
OK I found it... now trying 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/31 "2022-01-12T16:32:53Z")
> [@Thanatermesis](#): > > Same in my first attempt, I don't know what's the cause but I just wanted to go with a new ISO build for my next test (this requires a good amount of work so its not going to happen soon) > > wohoo!! you found how to make it working 🙂 I am ready to test your new ISO LOL SoundCard does not work. NOt sure I did the bullseye modification the right way ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/32 "2022-01-12T16:40:07Z")
ok trying this : [Howto upgrade Elive Beta from Buster to Bullseye](https://triantares.ddns.net/Elive/Howtos/Howto%20upgrade%20Elive%20Beta%20from%20Buster%20to%20Bullseye.html) ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/33 "2022-01-12T17:20:06Z")
ok, AM now using bullseye Still no sound... Any ideas what I could try ? LOST SOME SHORTCUTS in the process : change WorkSpace etc Will read the thread again.. ---
**Author:** ![linux23dragon](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/linux23dragon/32/2785_2.png) [@linux23dragon](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/linux23dragon)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/34 "2022-01-12T17:25:41Z")
> [@yoda](#): > > Lenovo YOGA C640-13IML I tried to google the chip online and only found windows 10 support. do you have a kernel log? ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/35 "2022-01-12T17:34:08Z")
First try 'inxi -S' to see what is configured. It should have snd\_hda\_intel as driver IMO Ummm, can I bother you with your own post? ![image](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e81fb525e918c4a12fff1f388c473ad2942affd6.png) ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/36 "2022-01-12T17:47:16Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > ![image](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e81fb525e918c4a12fff1f388c473ad2942affd6.png) LOL LOL sound working Tks ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/37 "2022-01-12T17:49:30Z")
the only thing left missing from what i know is the ability to Pinch / enlarge etc a window on my touchscreen, Example most Linux distro I tried on that laptop, Brave was allowing me to enlarge or reduce the browser window... Will google a bit 😉 ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/38 "2022-01-12T17:51:00Z")
And the fan seems to be spinning more than with Mint, Arch (Garuda) or Deepin... Probably some configs but out of the box, the other distro did a good job for my fan ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/39 "2022-01-12T17:54:19Z")
So will Chromium allow that, as will evince (pdf reader) but it is indeed app dependent. As to the fan ...... no idea mine works fine but check what's running first i.e what's actually making the CPU hot. Oh yes ..... Do try this: [https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/new-feature-browsers-on-ram-faster-healthier-for-your-computer](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/new-feature-browsers-on-ram-faster-healthier-for-your-computer) ---
**Author:** ![yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/yoda/32/42_2.png) [@yoda](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/yoda)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034/40 "2022-01-12T17:56:57Z")
tks Brave was the one working well for me on 3 different distros, I just tried Chromium, no success but will let you know if I find the solution As for the fan, will make some research and let you know but, I think it was just " hot " for doing a lot of tasks in short period of time... Seems ok now LOL Fan has catched up with the heat [Previous page](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/installing-bullseye-over-buster-on-elive-beta/3034.md?page=3)