# Ok this is getting out of hand (look at screenshot) **URL:** \ **Category:** Testimonials\ **Created:** [December 26, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626 "2020-12-26T17:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/1 "2020-12-26T17:05:36Z")
![image](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bf2ef2c538d5508599fdecc1f006caf193750082.jpeg) You cannot tell me that a FULL-BLOWN DE is taking up 55 MB OF RAM. (Right now 33.8MB) This is epic. ---
**Author:** ![Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/rebel450/32/2737_2.png) [@Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Rebel450)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/2 "2020-12-27T16:58:01Z")
> [@TheTechRobo](#): > > FULL-BLOWN DE is well, am not convinced that I would call E a full blown up DE, but in any case - that's cool ( if this measurement is correct {?} ) :shocked: ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/3 "2020-12-27T19:39:44Z")
> [@Rebel450](#): > > if this measurement is correct Heheh, in the same situation E16 only uses about 14.9 Mb. But there's more running to have all the fun we're used to. :magick: I seem to be "out of sync" with others every time I switch DE for long term use ..... I am on E16 again since I wanted to make/mod it be "modern", whatever that may be. :nod: ![Screenshot_2020-12-27_20-40-42](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d703f259cf9ed98b45f5f5738ba8594e02c0383f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/rebel450/32/2737_2.png) [@Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Rebel450)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/4 "2020-12-27T19:48:55Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > am on E16 again Methinks there is nothing wrong on that. Why not E16 then? Prolly we are the only ones using it in a serious way, ya? No ? :madness: ---
**Author:** ![Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/rebel450/32/2737_2.png) [@Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Rebel450)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/5 "2020-12-27T19:51:34Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > only uses about 14.9 Mb. So. And now you have tell my PC with 64GB of RAM - what to do with the rest of the daytime..... :surprise: ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/6 "2020-12-27T20:34:18Z")
> [@Rebel450](#): > > what to do with the rest of the daytime.. Umm, run Catalina (and Leopard) in Vbox? :hot: ![Screenshot_2020-12-27_21-30-50](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3babe15769b135f7ccae4201f4d558667a30176f.jpeg) Normally I use Vbox fullscreen but made it smaller to show off...and I've only got 8G RAM. :shocked: Sheesh, I started off with a whopping 35Mb hard drive on my PC running Win3.1 ..... my first PC with a GUI. :shocked: ---
**Author:** ![Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/rebel450/32/2737_2.png) [@Rebel450](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Rebel450)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/7 "2020-12-27T22:17:48Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > run Catalina ...... in Vbox Yep, that's sweet. (Leopard is useless, though) ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/8 "2020-12-28T02:05:24Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > Umm, run Catalina (and Leopard) in Vbox? :hot: dont even try to install big sur. its download is 13GB and it needs an additional 35GB during installation ... not great. ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/9 "2020-12-28T02:06:51Z")
> [@Rebel450](#): > > am not convinced that I would call E a full blown up DE, hm....why? I use it daily and love it. Apart from the frequent crashes. > [@triantares](#): > > But there's more running to have all the fun we're used to. :magick: true, but just goes to show how little a minimal install could be. why, we could realistically have a 100MB system - it'd just be garbage. ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 9:17am UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/10 "2020-12-28T09:17:32Z")
There's a GUI system to checkout that's really minimal: Mulinux. It's really old but sometimes I still run it on very old hardware, just for the fun of it. :madness: > **[mulinux - Browse Files at SourceForge.net](https://sourceforge.net/projects/mulinux/files/)** > > muLinux is a miniature, but nearly full-featured distribution (i.e., version) of Linux that can fit on a single floppy disk and can turn almost any… ---
**Author:** ![Alberade](https://forum.elivelinux.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alberade](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Alberade)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/11 "2021-02-24T13:50:58Z")
is the measurement correct? thank you ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/12 "2021-02-24T13:52:53Z")
Well it's correct for the RAM usage of the desktop environment, but like triantares said, there's a lot more running than that. _cough cough_ systemd :nod: ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/13 "2021-02-24T17:58:00Z")
With my current minmal settings using tint2 I got E16 down to 10.5 Mb. :happy_dance: ![Elive_Screenshot_2021-02-24_18:52:06__2048x1152](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7f2cb14643ad1d42a762239640acbe59e230bdd2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/14 "2021-02-24T18:50:07Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > ![Elive_Screenshot_2021-02-24_18:52:06__2048x1152](https://forum.elivelinux.org/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7f2cb14643ad1d42a762239640acbe59e230bdd2.jpeg) You are the true master of e16. :madness: ---
**Author:** ![Alberade](https://forum.elivelinux.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alberade](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Alberade)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/15 "2021-03-01T19:26:23Z")
> [@TheTechRobo](#): > > > [@Rebel450](#): > > > > am not convinced that I would call E a full blown up DE, > > hm....why? > > I use it daily and love it. > > Apart from the frequent scratches > > > [@triantares](#): > > > > But there's more running to have all the fun we're used to. :magick: > > true, but just goes to show how little a minimal install could be. why, we could realistically have a 100MB system - it'd just be garbage. I do not understand why the installation should be restricted? ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/16 "2021-03-01T19:45:55Z")
> [@Alberade](#): > > I do not understand why the installation should be restricted? What do you mean? Your quote is too broad. ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/17 "2021-03-01T20:11:40Z")
> [@Alberade](#): > > I do not understand why the installation should be restricted? Well for one: The size for an install shouldn't be bigger than a a standard data DVD i.e 4.7Gb especially considering that dual layered DVDs never broke through. I'll give that a lot of us probably install through flashdrives but there are still many machines which are only DVD bootable and not USB. In time maybe Elive should also offer a minimal net-instal option allowing installers to download/install/upgrade exactly what they want. Nothing new there: Debian has had that option for ages. :nod: ---
**Author:** ![TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thetechrobo/32/3394_2.png) [@TheTechRobo](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/TheTechRobo)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/ok-this-is-getting-out-of-hand-look-at-screenshot/2626/18 "2021-03-01T22:15:23Z")
> [@triantares](#): > > In time maybe Elive should also offer a minimal net-instal option allowing installers to download/install/upgrade exactly what they want. Nothing new there: Debian has had that option for ages. :nod: Yeah, we could use a very stripped down version of elive installer, install the base system, then finish installing from hard drive\*. Or even do the install directly. \*That's what Windwos used to use. I'm not feeling so sure about that idea anymore. Especially since we _could_ just do the install directly, not sure what I was thinking.