# Where in e16 can I manage desktop widgets **URL:** \ **Category:** Enlightenment\ **Created:** [May 20, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912 "2024-05-20T12:30:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![patrick.regnouf](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/patrick.regnouf/32/3508_2.png) [@patrick.regnouf](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/patrick.regnouf)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912/1 "2024-05-20T12:30:35Z")
like delete an iconbox or manage the pager ... there does not seem to be any "shelf" concept as in e17 ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912/2 "2024-05-20T14:47:01Z")
1. There are options to manipulate those using the key-combo 'Ctlr+Alt+right-mouse-click' or, in case of windows the little blue square top-left allows the same options. 2. For a tad advanced users who don't mind some command-line magic, there's the 'eesh' shell specifically for e16. Do a `'eesh help all'` to see what's available. 3. Then there's the menu: 'Enlightenment' -\> 'Desktop' and 'Settings' where inside the latter there are options under the 'Desks' and 'Areas' buttons. There's a tutorial on customizing E16 here with a section on the pager here: > [@Tutorial on handling E16 by customizing the desktop](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/tutorial-on-handling-e16-by-customizing-the-desktop/2799): > > This Tutorial can also be viewed as webpage here: or downloaded as a PDF: Getting to know Elive-E16 desktop by customizing it. History Elive on it's introduction, made quite a splash. A distribution that excelled in the way the E17 desktop environment was presented. Snazzy with great optical effects whilst being fast and stable. [image] Elive Stable with its E17 Desktop ​ That was more than a decade ago and the Stable version from those days is only available in it's original 32 bit De… ---
**Author:** ![Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/thanatermesis/32/3_2.png) [@Thanatermesis](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/Thanatermesis)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912/3 "2024-05-20T15:10:39Z")
About gadgets, there's 2 types: - native e16 - generic gadgets the first are the ones called "epplets", so you can install them as: > api e16-epplets they can be pretty useful, but their look and feel can be very primitive from very old E desktop / linux, also their font can be extremely tiny on actual screens so you can also use generic gadets, these are things like conky, cairo-dock, tint2, etc... you may probably want to play with some / multiple conky setups, where there's many with fancy designs when you use generic linux gadgets you can "ctrl + alt + right-click" on them to set some desktop settings, like sticky or ignore-window-list ---
**Author:** ![patrick.regnouf](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/patrick.regnouf/32/3508_2.png) [@patrick.regnouf](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/patrick.regnouf)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912/4 "2024-05-20T15:41:39Z")
Thank you, indeed very useful information. However my question was concerning an icon box that I created and now want to delete… how do I get rid of it or even move it to another spot on the desktop? ---
**Author:** ![triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/user_avatar/forum.elivelinux.org/triantares/32/2550_2.png) [@triantares](https://forum.elivelinux.org/u/triantares)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/where-in-e16-can-i-manage-desktop-widgets/3912/5 "2024-05-20T17:09:04Z")
> [@patrick.regnouf](#): > > move it to another spot on the desktop? That moving can be done using 'Ctrl+Alt+left-click' and dragging. It's a similar action as mentioned for the pager in the tutorial.... and using the 'remember ...' option to keep it's placement. Do make an effort with that tutorial as most answers you are looking for are in there, one way or another. Be aware that sometimes a specific widget (like i.e conky) is set to "immovable" but that can be undone with the toggle in the 'miscelaneous' section at the bottom of the 'Ctrl+Alt+right-click' options. Simply 'closing' a widget that is also set to 'remember' is a simple manner of deleting it i.e due to the remembered setting it wont show up again. The same goes for 'resizing' or placement.