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On running an upgrade i.e opting to upgrade an existing installation something struck me.

If I'd be running the amd64 live/install version over a 32 bit installed system, the installer would offer to crossgrade the existing 32bit to 64.....same as it would offer to migrate an existing other distro installation to Elive.

IMO a nifty (future) feature would be if the installer took note of a non-encrypted filesystem and then would offer the option to recreate the system as encrypted.
I know it's do-able but not sure if the Elive installer is up to that or ....

  • If it's just my geeky mind that would like something like that and there's no one else who even sees sense in that. :thinking:

All input appreciated. :smiley14:

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Is it possible also migrating an encrypted one to non-encrypted?

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If you know the password: Yes probably ...
but haven't really looked into that.

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Well, if we are more far with our DE then,
it might be worth some efforts -
but now..... who (or how many) would really need a Cross-Upgrade from the i386 to amd64 yet :confusing:

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Well from what I gather quite a few.
Apparently a number of people first download the free 32bit Beta to check if it's worthwhile to donate for the 64bit version.
For instance @stoppy98 cross-migrated his 32 to 64 bit using the Debian howtos before getting the amd64 Beta download link for being on the forum. :1up:

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True. Though i would not suggest this practice :joy:

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Hi, your geeky?

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That would be a smart idea..a very useful one too!

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moved thread to the Suggest section

this would be really nice, but is technically not possible (encryption is a luks layer before the filesystem, which means to re-create the partitions, i dont think is possilbe to add it only the fly or maybe im wrong missing a nice feature from Luks, the only way is to backup all data and copy it back later) , the only possible thing is to show a message to the user saying that his system is not encrypted and is suggested to create a new install to have encryption

why not? elive converts (upgrades) your system between one to another arch (any) on the fly without any issues :slight_smile:

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Technically it could, by creating a backup/clone and then copying/cloning the existing structure and data into the newly created encrypted partition-scheme.
Or am I being overly simplistic there? :thinking:

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Because doing it by yourself my result in a mess.
If you let elive upgrader do it on the other end nothing will go wrong.
And by "yourself" i'm referring to a dumbass like me

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Aye, "In Thana we trust" :smiley14:

What can go wrong? :magick:

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Stumbled upon this HowTo which is aimed at Ubuntu and using "ecryptfs" but it doesn't look too hard IMO to do that with Elive. :thinking:
https://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/.

It would actually be easier from the installer [ than later on] as creating a second admin-user is superfluous from a running live instance.
I'll give it a go once I've finished making a back-up of my (400Gb of data) in my /home directory. :slightly_frowning_face:
After that I'll upgrade that (3.8.9) to 3.8.11 and see how that turns out.

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As Buster does not have an installation candidate for ecryptfs this won't be possible on Elive without jumping through some extra hoops. Gaaaah. :disappointed: