Stable version having E16?

Hello,
I saw that the Betaversion has E16 in it, Maybe Could you make a fork of Stable version that Also has E16?

I really like Enlightenment 16 and wish it would be easier to put it in Elive..

Thanks!

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Hello @TheTechRobo on a first welcome the forum.

In Stable it is as simple as installing e16 with "api e16"in a terminal and if you're wanting the current theme used in Beta you'll want "e16-theme-darkone" on top you'll need to install "cairo-dock" as well as "conky" separately if you want those.

Personally I find e17 in Stable a much better experience (kinda like e16 on steroids) but to each his own. :wink:

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Personally I find e17 in Stable a much better experience (kinda like e16 on steroids) but to each his own. :wink:

I like E17 too but —for me— most elements are nicer (I hate the modern "flat" look, E17 is not flat but is flatter than E16 in my opinion)
If I could I'd combine the two but that's not how it works unless I wanted to make a completely new desktop or modify the existing one... which I don't... :smirk:

In Stable it is as simple as installing e16 with api e16 in a terminal and if you're wanting the current theme used in Beta you'll want "e16-theme-darkone" on top you'll need to install "cairo-dock" as well as "conky" separately if you want those.

Thanks for tutorial! +1 and marked as solution :smiling_face_with_three_hearts::ballot_box_with_check:

EDIT 18h06 (~three minute later) P.s. Will that command api e16

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Not sure if that's a question but "api" is an alias for "apt-get install" on Elive.
Type "alias" to see all that are available. Just shortcuts :smiley_cat:

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Very interesting! I thought api was a standalone package manager!

Thanks!

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alias | grep apt

:slight_smile:

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Im rereading and i dont know what the heck i meant :confused:
Not sure why I didn't finish the sentence. Sorry

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As a final note I consider that the beta version which already includes a well integrated e16 can be perfectly be used as a stable version with e16 :slight_smile: (and yes, stable in bold)

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It looks like api no longer exists in elive 3.8.2..is this a bug?

Hi!

Well.... I just used it in 3.8.8 without problem...

Ho!

Maybe it just never installed... Or maybe I accidentally checked it off in the 'remove programs' screen.....I can't remember.

Nvm for some reason it was bugged out. I've recently been using api, apug, apu, apui, etc...

And most of the git aliases.

Thanks for adding them :slight_smile:

Definitively, I think could be nice if we have Elive released with E16, like a subdistro / subversion of Elive

In other words: to not go away with a deprecated Buster and/or E16, could be good to save it as a snapshoted OS forever :slight_smile:

Question will be: simply a version of Elive in the downloads menu? Or like a subproject in a different website ? (this would require much more work).

I propose E16 as free version where E24 (when available) asks for a small donation.

Well, I don't really plan to ask for donations for the E16 version, but by other side I don't think that the e16 version can be a "demo" of the e24 one...

yes and not :thinking:

  • yes: it is more limited, so yeah it can be a "you want more? donate for the new one"
  • no: it doesn't offers the full elive experience so user cannot know "what is more", in other words, it will be a limited experience to show the elive goodnesses

I think this needs to be discussed ASAP, because:

  • debian is going to move out to the next stable release (buster -> bullseye), this means that if we move out we will have "all this work for nothing"
  • as said before, it will be good to have a "snapshoted" state of this very good work, named "stable release"
  • there's e16 lovers in the world, it will be the unique distro to support officially e16, and the way to give that good e16 to them

now the problem is, we cannot call it "4.0 stable release" because is not the same complete elive experience... the only options are:

  • to create an extra page in the download section named "E16 version" on which uses the e16 desktop... but what about the name and the version number?
  • another option is to create a sub-distro of it, "eliveretro" maybe lol, the downside is that this will require a different website and many extra work :thinking:

I suspect that will never be the case considering the slow pace of E24/enlightenment compared to the pace Debian is developing at currently.
I propose:

  1. Name E16/Buster as Release Candidate indeed for EliveSlimE16-2.0 or such i.e stay away from "retro"
  2. Continue 3.9 with Bullseye and E24 Beta .... methinks (now, after a few months of sole usage) that E24 is stable enough to use.

What about just have both?

Have a separate page in the pages.

keeps it simple (jst one page) while making a new distro.

Yes, we should immediately make a snapshot using e16, as like a "beta stable" lmao, or a "filler stable" or "substitute stable" or something...This is discussed ASAP so...@Thanatermesis do you have any @mentions to do?

Well, it seems to use at least ~500MB of RAM, maybe e16 can be considered "light stable" for worse PCs...

I know, it took them like a year (if you look at the copyright info) to just have an improved screenshot tool and less RAM usage, if you look at my python-text-calculator repo it takes me like two weeks for a release, these releases contain much work, and they only take a bit of time...

yes bad comparison but bear with me :teddy_bear:

Nah, that's comparing carrots to pineapples. :mwahaha:

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