Things needing change on 3.8.30 iso

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OK .... after quite a struggle I managed to "upgrade" my existing 3.8.17 (religiously apugged as @IamElive once nicely said) that had already been moved to Bullseye manually a while back.

Here are my gripes/bugs:

  1. Conky starts up on the live-cd desktop despite being disabled in the welcome menu.
    No biggy but not how it should be. :innocent:

  2. Despite having Bullseye repositories, somehow Elive has a very old version of Firefox-esr which does not allow re-using the existing profile.
    Elive installs version 78.15.0esr-1~deb11u1 where a quick search for Bullseye gives 91.11.0esr-1~deb11u1. Installing the latter version allows using the existing profile with all its bookmarks, saved passwords, etc.

  3. Thunderbird has the same issue: version 1:78.14.0-1~deb11u1 is installed where in the Bullseye repositories 1:91.10.0-1~deb11u1 is available.
    Again installing the latter solves the lost profile (and mail settings) issue.

So how is it that Elive has older versions than Debian11 itself?
I personally cannot see any differences in repositories.

  1. On my machine 'catfish' file search wasn't installed. I find that an omission. :face_with_head_bandage:

  2. It's stupid that on an upgrade (keeping users and settings) something trivial like printer settings (cups and sane) disappears. requiering a total setup again of scanners and printers. :face_holding_back_tears:

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It's possible that those are the pre-cached packages and the repo now has new ones available.

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Probably, i.e the versions on the .iso.

Meaning that either:

  1. The .iso needs changing.... IMO the preferable option.

or:

  1. Everyone has to be warned to NOT start either Firefox or Thunderbird before first updating and upgrading them...else risk losing their profiles.

Erm, to be fair: The profiles aren't actually lost, they're there and usable but it will take some unnecessary fiddling.

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fixed

good to know that this update solves that issue. the version / repository thingy is not an issue, that's because the next day 3.8.30 was released, debian was updated 11.3 -> 11.4 , that's why the new version appears later

was replaced by searchmonkey, maybe you want to restart to a new desktop configuration? :slight_smile:

fixed, can you confirm that the confs that needs to be copied back from the previous /etc dir (see that you have a copy of it on your / ) is the directories "cups" and "sane.d" ? (you can try copying them back to see if works and/or something else is needed)

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Not that easy. :shocked:
That would in my case require that the 'brother-printer-drivers' as well as the scanner drivers be installed.

Alas they're not in my 'sudo apt list --installed' output.... so the confs AFAIK wont work.
Network printers OTOH shouldn't pose a problem.

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so it will only work for drivers that doesn't requires extra installations (many drivers are already included), mmh, and I assume this doesn't pose any possible "conflict" problem when upgrading :thinking: otherwise should be not included

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Yes, or they could've been added to '/etc/elive/packages_to_maintain_installed', I think. I forgot to add them, alas.
3.8.30 does have 'printer-driver-brlaser' already installed which has my DCP-1510 working OTOB but for the scanner functions requires additional 'brscan4' installation.

Hence my thought about doing a 'apt list --installed>pack-list-old.txt' on the existing system and comparing that to what's going to be installed. :thinking:
I did that to check out with 'meld' to find out if there were other packages that were downgraded like 'thunderbird' or 'firefox'.
Ultimately, it turned out they were the only 2 packages that got a lower version.

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