Weird, according to documentation by rhel it is or not and. I login to my Red hat developer account and see if i can find something on that.
On my laptop "cpufreq-info" tells me intel_pstate is being used ......and
cat /sys/module/intel_idle/parameters/max_cstate
answers: 0
This is with a
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4600U CPU @ 2.10GHz
Check BIOS settings, just to make sure that the OS is responsible, or not.
And:
@Nick_te_Lindert
I still miss your inxi output 
It seems though that intel_pstate is running in passive mode. From what i understand cpufreq only works with pstate when it is running in passive mode. I try to figure out what's going. I will send an update within an hour.
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System: Host: nick-XPS-13-9380 Kernel: 5.3.0-13-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.34.0
Distro: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 13 9380 v: N/A serial:
Mobo: Dell model: 0KTDY6 v: A00 serial: UEFI: Dell v: 1.7.0 date: 08/05/2019
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 23.5 Wh condition: 48.2/52.0 Wh (93%)
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8565U bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 8192 KiB
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/4600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 787 2: 800 3: 800 4: 795 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 790
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: XOrg 1.20.5 driver: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (Whiskey Lake 3x8 GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.0
Audio: Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-13-generic
Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath10k_pci
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac:
Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 99.25 GiB (41.6%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: SSDPEKKF256G8 NVMe INTEL 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 233.24 GiB used: 99.24 GiB (42.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 33.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info: Processes: 294 Uptime: 16h 06m Memory: 7.43 GiB used: 1.87 GiB (25.2%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36
I did it quickly in ubuntu, i dont know if that is a problem?
Those are low frequencies you have there .... amazing. 
Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7-4600U bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 4096 KiB Speed: 2095 MHz min/max: 800/3300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2577 2: 2473 3: 2383 4: 2298
Will check on another distro.
Lol not a problem, but is this the machine we are talking about ??
(uptime 16 hours on ubintu = 
? ¿ ?
7 posts were split to a new topic: Gaining longer battery life on laptops
Location cross checked: Netherlands 
Maar ik ben inderdaad wel nederlands:)
I see that dell promises 21 hour of battery life for this model on their website. So they do life up to that apparantly.
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I'm trying to modprobe the intel_pstate driver. But the system can't find the kernel module. On my installed version after all the updates the pstate driver also was unavailable.
My bad pstate is build into the kernel and is not in userspace
I know it's not in user space.
Still i'd be interested to know why you think intel_pstate is not there ... where it apparently works when using "cpufrq-set". At least it does on my box running Elive though admittedly set to "performance" by default.
- I saw in the daemon messages that it is loading correctly.
- The only problem is that it always uses the performance governor, and in case of overheating nothing lowers the CPU frequency. Which i would expect something like thermald to do?
I see that ubuntu defaults to powersave, i think default buster does that also. Powersave defaults to the lowest frequency and scales up when needed. Somewhat like the ondemand governor.
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Agreed.
And in using "cpufreq-set" to change to powersave: That gets changed back to performance on a reboot....requires a kernel setting.
@Nick_te_Lindert all fixed & implemented! 
How to enable powersaving on Elive (new cpu's):
apr --purge laptop-mode-tools
api laptop-mode-tools
Then, reboot the computer and check your cpu frequencies (for example in conky), unplug your AC cable, check them again
It is actually configured to (again, for new cpu's):
- On AC: full power
- On Battery: between 0 % and 40 % of cpu power
maybe 40% is too much? 
on battery we really want to save the battery and these computers works already pretty good, comments welcome!
I will be happy to know these comparisons with elive (with the powersavings working of course)
So, next version 3.7.13 will include a good powersaving working on new cpu's 
thanks @Nick_te_Lindert for the reports
Means, you already lost 3.7.12 somehow on your way ??
no, it was already published but i didn't had time to announce it yet , i will include the full changelog for the version 3.7.13 soon 
@Nick_te_Lindert about the wrong games entries (pcsx related issue deinstalling games) it is well fixed now, to have it run:
apug
verify that e16 has been updated and reboot to have the new generated menus
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I noticed there's an ugly double in "audio" as well:
"volume control" and "pulse volume control" are the same.
