3.7.5 betatesting experiences

[triantares]

@Thanatermesis

permissions from you lol, can you show me the result of this?

ls -1 /etc/sudoers.d/

On the current X1 (3.7.4 with self edited sudoers) machine:

~ ❯❯❯ ls -1 /etc/sudoers.d/
privileges_brightness
privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README

Will upgrade this one later today!

On the Helix2 tablet (coming from 3.0.6):

privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README
sudo_nopasswd_generic_triantares
sudo_nopasswd_packagers_triantares
timeout_password
users-elive-migrated

But brightness keys do work there as does (passwordless "sudo brightnessctl")

On the same Helix2 tablet the 3.7.4 to 3.75 upgrade:

privileges_brightness
privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README
sudo_nopasswd_generic_EliveX
sudo_nopasswd_packagers_EliveX
timeout_password
users-elive-migrated

Where brightness key does not work but sudo "brightnessctl" does work without password.

Messy lot this.

[Rebel450]

@Thanatermesis

should probably work now , let me know

Will do on Acer Aspire 5750G;
Intel core i5 @ 2,5Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus
rotating harddisk

late tonite...

[triantares]

Just did a "sudo apt-get upgrade" and had to do that twice in a row due to the process wanting to downgrade my (self installed) Virtualbox.
I let it do that (I can always install the other again) to see what would become of my USB3 connections.

The good new is that it retains all the extras and simply connects my USB3 disk. No extra work to be done.

[Thanatermesis]

@triantares

On the Helix2 tablet (coming from 3.0.6):

yeah this one looks right, you have "sudo_nopasswd...." for the users, these are the new sudo structure (which has been created on the migration mode for the old users), in the old one you don't have them

so in your next upgrade, check if you have these sudo_nopasswd_somethign ones for your user

@triantares

Where brightness key does not work but sudo "brightnessctl" does work without password.

try:

sudo elive-upgrader-root --ping

it should reply "pong", these are the error messages that I receive
but again, i dont know why the installer doesn't creates them for you or.. maybe because it was not the "first user" ? (it is only set to the first user)

ok, i have added sudoers confs for all the users now (not only the first one) for the generic group/file (not for the apt ones)

@Rebel450

Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus

optimus you mean "nvidia + intel" card ? mmh, this is not very tested, but should probably work

@triantares

Just did a "sudo apt-get upgrade" and had to do that twice in a row due to the process wanting to downgrade my (self installed) Virtualbox.

should have been elive-upgrader running in background (always at the init of the system)

[triantares]

@Thanatermesis

sudo elive-upgrader-root --ping

That's a pong in both cases.

@Thanatermesis

or.. maybe because it was not the "first user" ? (it is only set to the first user)

In both cases (EliveX and triantares) they were the only users on the system.

Strange tthough that on 3.7.4 to 3.7.5 the brightness key doesn't work.
But there's more going on in that system. It keeps losing the mouse during the session requiring a reload of "psmouse", too. ...... And there's always a power-management script blocking my shutdown for a certain time. Methinks the 2 could be related.

[Rebel450]

Initiating beta testing of 375a - the hardware is an
Acer Aspire 5750 g
Intel core i5 @ 2,5Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus
Reason for deep testing: Nvidia issue

Booting from flash drive
Network via Ethernet dhcp attached and running;
Elive live screen appears within one second (!)
First a 'normal' installation (without Nvidia) made -
here you are the output of dmesg from the live boot-
(I doubt that is any helpful, but you never know...) :
https://pastebin.com/pSwTEx4g

all seems to run well, even the screen resolution is fine and not any laggy
(no need for the rotten Nvidia crab),
but...

then following the installer advise to install additional Nvidia drivers,
followed all as per advice from the installer = failed:
"The driver could not implemented to the kernel, may be you should downgrade the kernel" - it told me that, aha...

ok, the rough way then:

@Thanatermesis

Elive already Installed on the hard disk

Boot the computer select Advanced / Recovery mode
done
Login as root from the provided console
done

Make sure that the module "nouveau" is not loaded, using "lsmod | grep nouveau"
seems to be loaded "nouveau" appears in nearly every line shown

if is loaded, you must reboot and press the "e" key in the boot menu
done

to edit the bootloader and add the boot parameter "modprobe.blacklist=nouveau",
where?
I tried to put in before 'fin' - and also at the beginning of the text,
did not work for the first time, just booting into LDM / GUI

worked somehow by second try, I came to the prompt as described from Than.
then press F10 to boot in this mode*
no input possible anymore,hangs after "FAILED to start Light Display Manager":
'Update UTMP about System runlevel changes"

uah.

Will be continued after @Thanatermesis feed back tomorrow then

PS:
I also tried a direct Nvidia install with the Nvidia InstallApplication (from their site)
Result: It "recommended the 390 Installer, this card is not supported by the 480 Installer" =ok, at least we are more intelligent now ...

[Thanatermesis]

@Rebel450 forget the howto, have you tried these specific steps?

@Thanatermesis

• boot in live mode, preselect "privative drivers", and add the boot parameters "nox11autologin" (press Tab to add it)
• when asks for installing nvidia, say "no"
• having connection to internet, run "apui elive-tools" to update the tool
• run "sudo nvidia-privative-drivers-install -l" (check the other options with -h if needed)
• try to install the driver, specially other versions than "current", improved options has been added too
• if success, try to run the graphical system with "startx"

[Franc]

Hi!

A little thing: when booting live, E16, tuning for language & keyboard, it want to log out / in, and if the menus are ok (in french, in my case), the keyboard stays in qwerty... Needs to come back to "restart desktop configuration" for it to be right! Plus the little message window about menus (ok) coming upon the one for language/keyboard selection (should be better aside or so)...

EDIT: plus, again a window (for unarchiving when selecting where to unarch) that is too big for the screen & impossible to resize or move (still E16 live) >>>xkill ...

Salutations!

[Thanatermesis]

@Franc

A little thing: when booting live, E16, tuning for language & keyboard, it want to log out / in, and if the menus are ok (in french, in my case), the keyboard stays in qwerty...

thanks, fixed for next build

@Franc

EDIT: plus, again a window (for unarchiving when selecting where to unarch) that is too big for the screen & impossible to resize or move (still E16 live) >>>xkill ...

which window / application? can you include a screenshot ?
fonts in version 3.7.5 should be resized to smaller ones if you have a small screen

[yoda]

what do you think of positioning the e16 pager here by default ?

[Thanatermesis]

you can do it yourself in your desktop, but is not a good option to have it by default on a different location than the actually configured one (because multiple reasons, like compatibility with different resolutions)

[triantares]

Good news for those, like me who want to use "gimp" and "mypaint":
In that the mishaps have been cleared/solved so both can be installed.

In my case: "Goodby snapd!"

[Thanatermesis]

@triantares

In that the mishaps have been cleared/solved so both can be installed.

in our elive alpha versions ? (debian buster) I still see the issue from apt-get

[triantares]

@Thanatermesis

in our elive alpha versions ? (debian buster) I still see the issue from apt-get

Just did a fresh install on my tablet (the one upgrade from 3.0.6) and both simply installed and run fine.
I installed mypaint first and thought I noticed a difference so I tried "api gimp".
Maybe you need an "apt-get update"

Looks like gimp now uses "libmypaint" and mypaint uses "libmypaint-data"

[Thanatermesis]

I will try to build 3.7.6 including mypaint back

[triantares]

Don't forget the "libmypaint-data-extras"

[triantares]

I have to retract that!
I hadn't noticed that installing gimp removed mypaint because I had mypaint open.
On closing it, it was gone.

[Rebel450]

beta testing of 375a - the hardware is an
Acer Aspire 5750 g
Intel core i5 @ 2,5Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus

Part 1: Report Of Installation:

Network via Ethernet DCHP accessible and used
Boot live & install mode from usb flash:
„Optimus found, installation of additional drivers wanted?“
No. Continue with nouveau.
Arrived on DE;
all fine and working, openGL working,
screen resolution in XrandR control panel shows 1366x768, which is correct for this machine.

All in all the defaults of the live mode looks quite optimized, except the Cairo setup.
Installer starts up automatically;
Option 1 Install chosen
Auto-update of Installer appeared
Register for bug reporting = yes
Dialog … early alpha… blah = ok
Window “Elive Installer” : optimized options and auto partitioning chosen (1st option)
“older installation of Elive found… upgrade?” = NO
‘Chose method of partitioning’ = Automatic
Error occurred here – fall back to leaving the installer, “ you have chosen no option” report send by installer….
It should lead to the former window instead of quitting the installer

Initializing again
“you will erase your whole disk… “ = OK
ext4 chosen
encryption = No
(Progress bar ok now )
“there is no swap… chose one” = /dev/sda2
(with same size of available RAM – which is wrong - it should be more! )
= yes ‘OK’
erasing /dev/sda2 for swap
Elive gets installed on your hard drive, patience !
The following setup windows left by default, except
Inkscape, Xbmc, Thunderbird, Games, Netsurf = deselected; all other on defaults, next:
Elive Installer running…
Creating user, password, ect. Automatic login from default changed to: not = OK
processing… (takes long, by the way, ya?)
Processors are getting much too hot meanwhile = external active cooler plate added….
(seems that the sensor in Conky is gone, showing now 0C , before was 100C...)
“Installation successful”
= Reboot….
And hanging here:
… can not boot, waiting for harddisk 1:30 sec; timout ; prompt…

The Elive Installer was obviously not able to erase the disk before new partitioning
Result :

Started again from live media, I found with gParted :

not assigned 1x 8MiB empty part,
/dev/sda1/ 1x 8MiB grub2 core.img - primary
sda2/ 6,46 GiB swap - primary
sda3/ 39,06GiB ext4 – Elive_OS – primary
sda4/ 420,22GiB ext4 – Elive_home – primary

I guess that something went wrong because of overheating, may be -
former installs did not have these issues, they always boot.

I deleted all partitions and started from scratch -
doing manually partitioning:

Partition-table; new = GPT
/dev/sda1/ ext4 boot 2,05GiB - primary
/dev/sda2/ swap 8,00GiB - primary
/dev/sda3/ ext4 root 455,41GiB - primary

Initializing Elive Installer from Elive Menu
chose not Automatic,
“‘none’ My disks are already partitioned”
then following the guided setup until
Dialog “you don’t have an UEFI partition, do you want to create it now?”
= No.

Arrived in DE, all as expected so far;

next:
Installation of Nvidia driver for Optimus... :
https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/nvidia-privative-drivers-installation/1250/6?u=rebel450

[Franc]

Hi!

Window / application: the one by default for tar.bz2 extraction, window asking where you want to extract (on a little test machine with 1366x768)...

Thanks!

[yoda]

If I want to test the 32-bit version on my slow HP laptop, did you say that we were able to upgrade from 64 to 32 bits?

oops, I forgot that some hardware was not working properly on the 32-bit, on that machine including the touchpad, I will keep the 64-bit version