3.7.5 betatesting experiences

Hi!

In the wood I would, or at sea! But I'm in a partially metallic wreck, and with only solar system for now as energy... Those days if sunny it runs averagely well to work by night until early morning, but in other season or weather conditions I got only few hours a day of electricity... Could be that when living in a "ripouxblique bananière" :wink: !

Salutations!

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Nvidia tests (390 & others):

@Rebel450 @Franc : Can you try the new nvidia-installer ?

  • boot in live mode, select "privative drivers", and add the boot parameters "nox11autologin" (press Tab to add it)
  • when asks for installing nvidia, say "no"
  • having connection to internet, run "apui elive-tools" to update the tool
  • run "sudo nvidia-privative-drivers-install -l" (check the other options with -h if needed)
  • try to install the driver, specially other versions than "current", improved options has been added too
  • if success, try to run the graphical system with "startx"

it should probably work now :thinking:, let me know

Hi!

@Thanatermesis:

YesSir! Will try at least tomorrow!

Each time I made the tests, it's with "current", "legacy 390xx", even one or two times with "340xx" on the Dell M6700...
May remember too that on this machine, there's the native intel video as well (meaning that here it can boot without nvidia at all & deal with it when in Enlightenement (if I'm not wrong))... After, it's Optimus time..!

For you to have more efficiency in remembering our hardwares, I had looking for a "signature" pref' in user preferences but didn't find, so for the moment I write it in the "bio"...

All noted, new special Nvidia thread read...

Salutations!

On the current X1 (3.7.4 with self edited sudoers) machine:

~ ❯❯❯ ls -1 /etc/sudoers.d/
privileges_brightness
privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README

Will upgrade this one later today!

On the Helix2 tablet (coming from 3.0.6):

privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README
sudo_nopasswd_generic_triantares
sudo_nopasswd_packagers_triantares
timeout_password
users-elive-migrated

But brightness keys do work there as does (passwordless "sudo brightnessctl") :eyepopping:

On the same Helix2 tablet the 3.7.4 to 3.75 upgrade:

privileges_brightness
privileges_network
privileges_upgrader
README
sudo_nopasswd_generic_EliveX
sudo_nopasswd_packagers_EliveX
timeout_password
users-elive-migrated

Where brightness key does not work but sudo "brightnessctl" does work without password.

Messy lot this.:thinking:

Will do on Acer Aspire 5750G;
Intel core i5 @ 2,5Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus
rotating harddisk

late tonite...
:work:

Just did a "sudo apt-get upgrade" and had to do that twice in a row due to the process wanting to downgrade my (self installed) Virtualbox.
I let it do that (I can always install the other again) to see what would become of my USB3 connections.

The good new is that it retains all the extras and simply connects my USB3 disk. No extra work to be done. :smiley14:

yeah this one looks right, you have "sudo_nopasswd...." for the users, these are the new sudo structure (which has been created on the migration mode for the old users), in the old one you don't have them

so in your next upgrade, check if you have these sudo_nopasswd_somethign ones for your user :thinking:

try:

sudo elive-upgrader-root --ping

it should reply "pong", these are the error messages that I receive
but again, i dont know why the installer doesn't creates them for you :thinking: or.. maybe because it was not the "first user" ? :thinking: (it is only set to the first user)

ok, i have added sudoers confs for all the users now (not only the first one) for the generic group/file (not for the apt ones)

optimus you mean "nvidia + intel" card ? mmh, this is not very tested, but should probably work :thinking:

should have been elive-upgrader running in background (always at the init of the system) :slight_smile:

That's a pong in both cases.

In both cases (EliveX and triantares) they were the only users on the system.

Strange tthough that on 3.7.4 to 3.7.5 the brightness key doesn't work. :thinking:
But there's more going on in that system. It keeps losing the mouse during the session requiring a reload of "psmouse", too. ...... And there's always a power-management script blocking my shutdown for a certain time. Methinks the 2 could be related.

Initiating beta testing of 375a - the hardware is an
Acer Aspire 5750 g
Intel core i5 @ 2,5Ghz
Nvidia GeForce 610m 1GB ; Optimus
Reason for deep testing: Nvidia issue

Booting from flash drive
Network via Ethernet dhcp attached and running;
Elive live screen appears within one second (!)
First a 'normal' installation (without Nvidia) made -
here you are the output of dmesg from the live boot-
(I doubt that is any helpful, but you never know...) :
https://pastebin.com/pSwTEx4g

all seems to run well, even the screen resolution is fine and not any laggy
(no need for the rotten Nvidia crab),
but...

then following the installer advise to install additional Nvidia drivers,
followed all as per advice from the installer = failed:
"The driver could not implemented to the kernel, may be you should downgrade the kernel" - it told me that, aha...

ok, the rough way then:

Boot the computer select Advanced / Recovery mode
done
Login as root from the provided console
done

Make sure that the module "nouveau" is not loaded, using "lsmod | grep nouveau"
seems to be loaded "nouveau" appears in nearly every line shown

if is loaded, you must reboot and press the "e" key in the boot menu
done

to edit the bootloader and add the boot parameter "modprobe.blacklist=nouveau",
where?
I tried to put in before 'fin' - and also at the beginning of the text,
did not work for the first time, just booting into LDM / GUI

worked somehow by second try, I came to the prompt as described from Than.
then press F10 to boot in this mode*
no input possible anymore,hangs after "FAILED to start Light Display Manager":
'Update UTMP about System runlevel changes"

uah.

Will be continued after @Thanatermesis feed back tomorrow then :face_vomiting:

PS:
I also tried a direct Nvidia install with the Nvidia InstallApplication (from their site)
Result: It "recommended the 390 Installer, this card is not supported by the 480 Installer" =ok, at least we are more intelligent now ...

@Rebel450 forget the howto, have you tried these specific steps?

Hi!

A little thing: when booting live, E16, tuning for language & keyboard, it want to log out / in, and if the menus are ok (in french, in my case), the keyboard stays in qwerty... Needs to come back to "restart desktop configuration" for it to be right! Plus the little message window about menus (ok) coming upon the one for language/keyboard selection (should be better aside or so)...

EDIT: plus, again a window (for unarchiving when selecting where to unarch) that is too big for the screen & impossible to resize or move (still E16 live) >>>xkill ...

Salutations!

thanks, fixed for next build :slight_smile:

which window / application? can you include a screenshot ?
fonts in version 3.7.5 should be resized to smaller ones if you have a small screen

what do you think of positioning the e16 pager here by default ?

image

you can do it yourself in your desktop, but is not a good option to have it by default on a different location than the actually configured one (because multiple reasons, like compatibility with different resolutions)

Good news for those, like me who want to use "gimp" and "mypaint":
In that the mishaps have been cleared/solved so both can be installed.

In my case: "Goodby snapd!" :smiley14:

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in our elive alpha versions ? (debian buster) I still see the issue from apt-get :thinking:

Just did a fresh install on my tablet (the one upgrade from 3.0.6) and both simply installed and run fine.
I installed mypaint first and thought I noticed a difference so I tried "api gimp". :hot:
Maybe you need an "apt-get update" :nod:

Looks like gimp now uses "libmypaint" and mypaint uses "libmypaint-data"

I will try to build 3.7.6 including mypaint back :slight_smile:

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Don't forget the "libmypaint-data-extras" :innocent:

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I have to retract that!
I hadn't noticed that installing gimp removed mypaint because I had mypaint open.
On closing it, it was gone. :eyepopping: