for the first, will be needed a big hack of the perl script that does it, so its in fact a pretty trivial thing for the amount of work, unless there's a fluent perl writer around
for the second, that's not possible, you will have the same problem in any other window manager, since looks like a fashion now to remove the borders of the windows in the applications, that's a problem of the application themselves which has internally-programmed to have the borders removed
by other side, could be possible to create an emodule for e17+ that will force to add borders
Nice one, done
i dont think so, the problem with it is that does a strange resizing when opening, but since its an issue with a very specific (and not common) application should be not a big issue
can you make a specific list of which ones? or better, let's start with a specific description for each one:
describe specific "need"
it is needed because of e16 or is a generic OS need?
do we have a tool (gui) that solves the problem or a specific one needs to be created?
@yoda@triantares@Rebel450 maybe we need to make a list of specific configurators / applications (needs) required for the new alphas, or required for e16 (in this thread is OK), maybe if we have specific needs like "keyboard configurator" for e16 we should include a specific package for extra features for only e16 desktop
this is already solved in 3.7.6 (i think 3.7.5 too), for smaller fonts auto configurations, other than that is not exactly possible, e16 just like any other WM allows applications bigger than the desktop size
lock is already integrated now as a hotkey, maybe we need a specific entry in the menus of applications?
the cairo-dock "logout launcher" feature is pretty useless and doesn't works
we want to keep cairo-dock since improves pretty much the entire desktop features and usability
already done: (e16 conf is not restarted on reinstalls if the previous versions is newer than 3.7.5)
ok, viewnor looks like a better and simpler alternative
audacious is the default configured in the dock because is lighter and has preseleted radio stations to directly play, it is also a pretty good simple player, rhythmnbox is included by default to have a better "organized" music library (so we had always both options directly available), and you can configure the one or the other in the dock settings, so i assume this is good this way
Actually it does work, only "lock-screen" doesn't.
It might be an idea to detach it by default and put it in one of the top corners.
The same goes for the clock feature i.e I detached and placed it somewhere on the top.
I think that's a very good idea, An extra elive-e16 configurator that would include the power settings would be cool.
Things like not going into suspend on lid close or configurable time out settings or go "lock screen" but never suspend or hibernation. etc, etc.
Laptops are used for sometimes very different things, especially in my case.
I would could it both. It's the desktop that has to control the system here.
A GUI tool is definitely needed so looking at the previous point: An Elive-conf-tool would be good.
Well how about going with the flow then and leaving windows borderless globally?
Which one is it?
I'm certainly no fluent perl (or any other) writer but would like to have a look how it's done.
then we will have no borders at all and this is a bad thing for a WM, users wouldn't know how to close or minimize a window, etc.. basically a window without borders is because it has its own way to close / manage the window (like elicit, which has an X button to close it, or chrome, etc)
sudo scite /usr/share/e16/scripts/e_gen_menu
its a bit complex and to make it work in the same way should include many extra things, not easy at all! i woulnd't do it...
Nope, not using the default -- it's a bit plain IMO but that wasn't the point.
More of a point to offer options for clock and (if wanted) the shutdown menu.
Ah, yes, I always use CTLR, w or q for closing or CTRL, ALT, i for minimizing or F11 for fullscreen for that.
Which brings me to a continual nuisance with "scite" and the reason why I don't like it.... why doesn't it adhere to the common linux way of closing? I mean ALT, F4 is old, old Windowsy.
its the point in the sense that the default provided conf doesn't include the logout widget, which is a bit useless (and probably not well working) since is already correctly implemented from the WM itself (so from the menus), so if the user wants in the dock should be enabled by himself
about the clock, new conf includes it in conky, which is a lighter alternative "always showing up"
the hotkeys pdf includes a big list of most useful keys (the most useful ones are in a different color)
Did you tried the Elive print screen and Shift Print screens CUSTOM APP ?
I like them... Simple and efficient... It save the picture in the Screenshot folder and in the Clipboard, ready to paste.
what I like about xfce-screenshooter is that it has a GUI that some people will like.
And " Manjaro implementation" has some custom feature going furter and allowing us to click something to host it and create https://imgur.com/ link on the spot ! I didn't know about imgur, but it is used a lot.... Reddit people use it.
It allow to put a picture there and juste paste the link on Reddit or other social media platform...
Yes but @Franc did not seem to know or have that feature and since @Rebel450 mentioned to use: api xfce4-screenshooter so it must not be installed yet. So, general default users will need to use this feature going forward. Coming from Windows long ago. I try print button first by 2nd nature but some people may not have that feature button on their keyboard.