Why Enlightenment 17 when there's newer versions?

E17 is not only a version but a specific piece of software, it’s main difference is that the composite layer is not integrated in the window manager itself, this allows us to run compiz (ecomorph) on top of Enlightenment 17.

Also, Elive uses a very customized version of E17 with own modifications, features, and some bugfixes backported, it is in the end a strongly stable, and well polished desktop.

Consider E17 as an entire separated desktop, not ‘a version of E’, just like E16 is even much more different and it doesn’t even uses the EFL libraries

So what about newer versions of E?

We selected on purpose to use E17 for the final stable version of Elive 3.0 because of the many reasons, this doesn’t means that we are not going to use a newer branch of Enlightenment in the future, it is just a matter of best choice, with factors like:

  • new version means more features and improvements, that’s a good thing
  • we will lost the possibility to use the optional compiz / ecomorph layer on it (that’s bad!)
  • we need to backport all the work and customizations, adaptations and compatibilities made by Elive (that’s a ton of work)
  • etc

Helle that’s means,

to resume

with the new e21, u don’t have ecomorph

so e17 is just to exelent, but i m not agree with no update ?

Who said it is not updated? try apt-cache policy e17-stable , you can see the date build time, it is maintained with bugfixes and improvements for Elive

but e is no the stable release with official page :


but i can’t found info for ecomorph, taht’s missing me on e22

they are different branches, different versions, and even can be considered different desktops, the e17 of Elive is own maintained and updated with tons of modifications, the number means nothing, just like the name. Example: moksha is a fork of e17, its only because of its name that it can make you think that its updated / maintained, and always in its last version ?

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